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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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jason man thank you so much for taking

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time out of your day today i know you're

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a busy dude but um thank you for coming

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on someone's guys to talk to us today oh

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thank you so much i'm excited to be here

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yeah and as much as i want to talk about

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dark side of the ring the huge craze on

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vice right now and in the wrestling

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world you're here to talk about ufos and

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alien abductions man so i hope this is a

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little uh a good trip down memory lane

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for you definitely

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it's been like almost like gosh like

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10 years i think since we made the short

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film

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and uh it's uh that that short is

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there's a lot of

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me and my childhood within it not only

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just like the crazy antics that me and

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my friends got up to when we were kids

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but my fear of aliens growing up you

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know i was a kid that like as early as

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the fifth grade

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at school and even at my elementary

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school they had like books about ufos

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and stuff and so

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i was kind of you know without my

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parents looking like i was like diving

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into that stuff and

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getting way too scared and my

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imagination running with it but it all

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like came together for that short for

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that short film yeah and you could tell

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um you know sort of the the way you

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structured it and everything it's got

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that feel of how we've heard these

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actual events sort of happen now you

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went down the horror route which um

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within that short which i think was like

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14 15 minutes i had to stop it like four

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or five times my heart was racing but um

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well you answered my first question what

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kind of inspired you to make it um

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that's pretty cool i remember same thing

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fire in the sky terrified me as a kid um

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when i finally sat down and watched it

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and then saw that based on true events

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like i know yeah

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shook my foundation i was like are you

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kidding me like same here

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i know yeah same here and like

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as a kid too i um

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i was like in my youth i experienced a

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lot of like sleep paralysis moments

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where um i would see like

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you know at night

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like sleep paralysis is like you're kind

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of like stuck between dreaming and being

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in the you know in the real world

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and i was having these moments where i'd

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be like i'd wake up frozen in my bed and

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these like dark figures would come into

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my room and surround my bed but i had no

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there was no internet or anything back

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then and i talked to my parents about it

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and they would just take me to the

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doctors and you know

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there was no ever like explanation as to

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like why i was you know experiencing

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these things and you know to me i almost

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thought like oh no like am i

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experiencing like alien abductions of

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i didn't know how to process it until i

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was in college

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and i was actually like on a film set we

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were filming the short film and i was

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telling my teacher

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um one of my teachers at the time these

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sleep paralysis experiences that i was

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having and he was like oh like

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that's you know it's this thing called

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sleep paralysis and he told me a couple

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theories on it and then i went home and

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looked it up and i was like oh my god

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this is a thing that like a lot of

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people like experience so

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um i like with a mix of those feelings

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having my nightmares from um

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from things like fire in the sky and

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just like reading books about you know

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that all

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like accumulated into yeah that short um

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yeah it was gestating in the back of

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your mind man it has been yeah

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alien abduction is what we're talking

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about guys if you're just joining us um

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well and this was a short within in

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anthology series uh vhs

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a lot of people are probably familiar

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with that and the original um and you

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know this is the one that really stood

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out to a lot of people in vhs too and um

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i'd like to know man like yeah it was a

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15 minute film but how long did it take

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what was the process like it was filming

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yeah it was only i think we had four

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days to shoot it um yeah and then it was

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you know it all took place at my my

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parents home and the dog in it is our it

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was our family dog at the time

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i like uh i was really at the time like

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also inspired by um

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like ride films like i don't know if you

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ever went to like uh universal studios

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oh right right yeah yeah where it's like

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it's a movie

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but like you're going through this

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experience that's like a ride and

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uh stuart gordon who was an incredible

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director who um did from beyond and

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he made one of these ride films um for

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the movie aliens

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uh for um some theme parks and it's cool

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because it's like all from the point of

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view of that you know the tank and

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aliens that

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sigourney weaver and the marines drive

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into the into that uh colony

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and it's like it's just all pov and

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taking you through this experience

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driving through and aliens are popping

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i was just like getting really into the

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mindset of that and the challenge

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the challenge we had what for the

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anthology was to make like a found

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and so i was like i really want to make

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a ride movie

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and like stuart gordon had also worked

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on honey i shrunk the kids as well too

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perspective of a dog was like really

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intriguing to me that this whole alien

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yeah could like just be from the

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perspective of their of the pets you

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while you know it's a and also just a

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lot of my nightmares um as a kid were

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you know me and my friends like hanging

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something is coming for us at my home

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to like neighbors homes and stuff and

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i i would just have drink like i i like

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like chasing me in my backyard or the

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t-rex from jurassic park was you know

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i wanted to create that was also a big

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inspiration is that like you're being

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with your friends and you're running

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from your life from something that

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absolutely i think we can all relate to

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like what's out there in the woods

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these found footage films uh resonate so

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much with people and i think while

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they're still here is because we can all

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find something to you know

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uh relate to in terms of what could be

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that's something i want to talk to you

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about man the creatures the aliens in

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these in this thing was terrifying um

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how'd you come up with your creature

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the version of you know of all this the

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sketches i've seen from you know

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aliens and you know the gray alien has

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even though it's like a it's a bipedal

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figure that's standing on two feet but

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it's almost human-like and there was

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like i don't know maybe as a kid there

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the idea that aliens in my head was that

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enter your home without you know

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windows are locked they'll find a find a

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and maybe it was partly because of the

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sleep paralysis figures that i saw were

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with the aliens it's like they're

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human-like you know but if you got a

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little closer you see that like oh their

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fingers are longer and like their heads

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um so it was mostly just being inspired

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by the classic sort of gray alien but i

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here which is the story of shag harbor

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which i don't know what you're familiar

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with yeah i'm very familiar i've been

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okay i've been in your neck of the woods

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a couple times now for uh for some ufo

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hunts out in shag harbor so yeah my

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audience is definitely gonna know what

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you're talking about okay cool i was

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just down there two weeks ago and um

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hanging out with some of the local

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fishermen who

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you know had heard stories and

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guys

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stuff but yeah the chick harbor happened

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in 1967 where the ship you know had

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crashed into the harbor and a bunch of

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fishermen thought oh that could be an

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airplane we got to get out there and

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look for survivors

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and they get out there and they just see

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like lights under the water and foam

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you know for days later you know the the

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supposedly the u.s uh navy posted up and

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they brought out divers and they were

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hauling things up and that no one could

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i like i just always was creeped out

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because i you know living here

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and that idea that like if a ship was

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like underwater and i was always told

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even like i had a i had an uncle

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uh who was in the navy and i when i was

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13 and like you know being interested in

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aliens and ufos stuff i like asked him

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about if he knew anything and he had

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heard all these stories from

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guys in the navy as well too and

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you know they had heard that like

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that ship had like crashed and another

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ship came underwater and connected with

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that ship and they were connected for a

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couple days and then they both took out

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under traveled underwater and then

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lifted out up down the gulf and back

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into

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you know aerospace

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um but the idea that they could be

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underwater and that they or either it's

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a crash landing or it's a a place that

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they've come to like fuel up but that

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that they could

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the idea that they just take hiding in a

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in a harbor

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um

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under a body of water was so

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scary to me and that

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i wanted to try something different

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where

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you know we've seen a lot of abductions

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where it's you know a beam of light that

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comes down and pulls you up but what's

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the aliens just take you

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and just literally drag you to the ship

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and in that short my idea was that even

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though we don't have the budget to

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show it or anything was that those kids

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are being dragged into the water

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taken down to a ufo that's like at the

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bottom of the heart yeah

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that that man that was the most

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effective part i never seen an alien

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abduction uh film or scenario where

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literally you're being dragged into the

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depths of the water which like you said

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that was actually my next question is um

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the way you used water in this film

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we're hearing so much now

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you know with the us navy and the

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pentagon and stuff that like all these

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navy people

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saw ufos and the the pentagon actually

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investigated them they think there's

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some connection with like the pacific

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ocean so yeah who knows man there's so

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much mystery down in the water that we

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don't know about you know i always say

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like you want to look for aliens stop

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looking up there look down there so yeah

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i loved that way that you did this in

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the film um thank you let's see um i

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want to ask you just a few more here

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jason yeah um

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what uh what are your personal thoughts

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on the abduction phenomenon i mean

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millions of people now throughout the

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decades have claimed this happened to

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them um you know you mentioned sleep

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paralysis probably a big explanation for

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a lot of these but you've got like

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stable sane people law enforcement

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teachers um whatever clergy men and

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women like claiming these abductions and

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stuff like what do you make of this

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whole phenomenon do you think people are

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actually being taken by aliens out there

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i don't know i feel it's not my quite my

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place to say i'm very open-minded to you

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know

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a lot of different things like

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uh so i think you know

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anything is

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possible i wouldn't you know i wouldn't

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jump to discredit those people

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you know if they really believe in what

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they've been through you know

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i would uh i would respect that and uh

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you know

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want to know more i guess

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so yeah i'm always intrigued i'm not a

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someone who would jump to deny

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you know that

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their their experiences um

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yeah yeah i've seen things you know i

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haven't seen

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i don't think i've seen aliens i've seen

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you know what i would thought to have

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been ufos

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throughout my life but i definitely have

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speak i've experienced supernatural sort

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of things as well too so

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you know

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who's to say how this world works

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right yeah i know i think you know we're

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still young

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as a species there's so much out there i

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um well what kind of uh what kind of

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alien films really inspired you i know

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fire sky um what are some of your

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favorites out there yeah fire in the sky

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is definitely a big one for me obviously

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the

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you know that end sequence where it

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shows the abduction is

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so amazing and

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how they hint at all these little things

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you know to expand upon the world like i

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just love like when that guy's being

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dragged through the ufo and

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there's like he hits like a set of

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glasses that just like starts spinning

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and yeah i think you even see a baby

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carriage or something in there as well

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too and like it just it felt old and

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there's that room where the tunnel where

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there's all the pods of other

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passive ducties that are in there

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i love that moment where he like he

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loses his balance and he falls into

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another pod and he like his hands land

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in goo and he looks and he sees there's

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like a corpse like

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like his hands just melt like went

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through the corpse like oh yeah that's

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such a crazy idea um uh but it you're

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like like you said you know because it

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said it was based on

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a true story

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it really like had an effect on me now

402
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when i read the actual

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story

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and the account is much different than

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the movie it's actually a much cooler

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experience that he went through than a

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terrifying thing that the movie does but

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the movie

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you know is it's great at the

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horror aspect of it and to me the most

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effective scariest part in the film

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is like when um

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the family keeps getting like prank

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phone calls

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and then he finally calls and they

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realize it's actually him

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and then they go looking for him and the

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pouring rain and the lightning and they

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find him like naked next to an ice

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machine at a gas station like curled up

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in a ball and they try to go touch him

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and he's so like freaked out that scene

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is

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like so freaky to me um

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five days that guy was missing it's

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crazy i i've talked to the actual guy

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and like you mentioned um

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you know a lot how it's hollywood like

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we get it you know we get like they have

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to

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um kind of spruce it up or make it but

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he has said like yeah like maybe what

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they showed wasn't how it happened but

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like the way i felt was definitely yeah

435
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you know how they interpreted it that's

436
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cool yeah you're right the things back

437
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on the ground were a bit more unsettling

438
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than even like the the abduction itself

439
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yeah yeah no it's a it's a it's a really

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good film and i think it still really

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holds up um

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i think another one um

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was um

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well what's it called the one with uh

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christopher

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walken

447
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oh uh communion communion yeah yeah that

448
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was a trippy movie yeah that had an

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effect on me as a kid it's been a long

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time since since i've seen it again so i

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don't know how it holds up but there was

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that one moment where the alien like

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peeks in through like a door or

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something that like definitely had an

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effect and

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um

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but

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yeah i don't know it was like a lot of

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it was just kind of good ones yeah based

460
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on like all my fears and how fire in the

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sky made me feel and

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and kind of interpreting it in my own

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way with my own fears

464
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cool man um is is horror like your thing

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is that where you find yourself most

466
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comfortable behind the lens and

467
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everything or do you want to try to

468
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tackle other stuff dramas

469
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yeah

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for whatever you know it's like like

471
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dark side of the ring is like a whole

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other

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you know

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that's drama right there yeah at the end

475
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of this season we have done like 30

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stories that are all different kind of

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you know stories and dramas and so and

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there's some of those kinds of stories

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i'd love to take you know into a feature

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film sort of

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way you know

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um but um

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i've always been like a huge fan of the

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genre and

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that's like i grew up you know making

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horror and action movies and i'm

487
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prepping one right now so you know it's

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uh

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yeah it's something i've i'll i always

490
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thrive in

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in this world for sure

492
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cool man well hey full disclosure uh

493
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chris jericho is the one who kind of put

494
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us in touch and you didn't mention dark

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side of the ring um

496
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what's coming up next with dark side of

497
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the ring i know you have an episode

498
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on luna vashon who is like this great

499
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incredible woman wrestler

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who uh her story is it's inspiring but

501
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also tragic too

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um

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she was someone who just like had such

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an incredible passion for wrestling

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and uh but came up in a time and women's

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wrestling were

507
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women's wrestling wasn't very really

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highlighted like

509
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uh for women a lot of their place in the

510
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industry then was like being a valet of

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some sorts and

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she just really wanted to wrestle

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and she battled a lot with addictions

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and mental illness and

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um

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and that ended up

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uh

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taking

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control of her life and over her but

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there is so much um about her story that

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is really inspiring and powerful and

522
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then after that there's a story about

523
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xpw which is like this crazy independent

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um

525
00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:04,640
uh

526
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:06,640
wrestling promotion that

527
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,919
um mixed uh it was like a porn company

528
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:12,240
that got into wrestling and so it was

529
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:13,039
like

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together and

531
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i don't want to say too much about it

532
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because like you just ha

533
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i love just like putting that episode on

534
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,080
for people a lot of friends i know

535
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:28,240
who grew up with wrestling don't know

536
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,120
that story so much like some of the

537
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other indie promotion stories never

538
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:34,960
really caught like some of my friends

539
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like

540
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you know

541
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their attention

542
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,799
um also being here from nova scotia it

543
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,480
was so hard to even

544
00:20:45,990 --> 00:20:44,080
know about these other promotions like

545
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,000
growing up and then the last one is

546
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about the the the infamous steroid

547
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:50,400
trials where the turkey had was indicted

548
00:20:56,310 --> 00:20:53,360
by the government um for the use of uh

549
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,320
steroids and his company uh and that'll

550
00:21:03,190 --> 00:20:58,720
be a great way to kind of end the season

551
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but yeah um hopefully uh you know

552
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uh

553
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:06,159
the role will continue making more of

554
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,440
them um after after this season's over

555
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:11,520
yeah in the world of wrestling there's

556
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never

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there's too many stories to be told and

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um i i will say this man um the the

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chris benoit two-part series the owen

560
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heart one like those yeah some of the

561
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best television i've ever seen oh wow

562
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thank you so much yeah yeah those are

563
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really told those stories was just

564
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amazing

565
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oh thanks yeah those are very definitely

566
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close to our hearts like

567
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those were

568
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man very emotional

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um

570
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i can't imagine yeah yeah it was a quite

571
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the journey of making those episodes

572
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i'll never forget for sure

573
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well jason i'm sure the journey's not

574
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over man i know you're like in

575
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production right now you were so

576
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gracious to give me your time i told you

577
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10 minutes here we go 25 minutes later

578
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no it's all good man it's been fun i

579
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love the chance to be able to talk about

580
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uh that short because

581
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it means a lot to me and i'm very proud

582
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of it and uh i love hearing when like

583
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people who um who are also like me and

584
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were interested in this stuff like

585
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growing up and had fears of it that when

586
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they see the short they really connect

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with it because it like kind of it like

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uh

589
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it

590
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kind of shows the same fears in a way

591
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that you know that that they had as well

592
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too and so

593
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i i i every once in a while i'll see

594
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someone like write a twitter post or

595
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something about it man this was so scary

596
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the way they portrayed aliens in it like

597
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you know

598
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people just give props to like how we

599
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did that and i i think that's cool

600
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absolutely man you have forever cemented

601
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your legacy and found footage filming i

602
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loved it dude so i want to thank you for

603
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coming on somewhere in the skies today

604
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let's do it again and we will we will

605
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get deep into dark side of the ring but

606
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uh get back to work can't wait to see

607
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what you come up with next

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